雏菊1966

喜剧片其它1966

主演:伊特卡·采尔霍娃,伊万娜·卡尔班诺娃,Julius Albert

导演:维拉·希蒂洛娃

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  影片开始于两个都叫玛丽的少女(Jitka Cerhová 和 Ivana Karbanová 饰)的对话:没有人理解我们,这个世界上的一切正在变得越来越糟糕。于是两人决定:我们也要变得越来越坏!玛丽一号喜欢和老男人约会,在他们吃饭的时候,玛丽二号会突然出现,旁若无人地大吃特吃。玛丽一号把老男人送上火车,老男人以为她会陪着他,火车开动,她却下了火车。玛丽二号在一个收藏蝴蝶标本的男青年家中,用他的标本遮住自己身体的隐秘部位。她们在夜总会里捣乱,最后被赶走。她们无意中闯入一个没有人的宴会,开始肆无忌惮地享受美食.....本片献给精神生活一团糟的人们。

 长篇影评

 1 ) 荒诞的狂欢:从《雏菊》中看欲念与虚无

重复旋转的涡轮,漫无目的的飞机,一团迷糊的炮火,尖锐而规律的号角。横亘欧洲的铁幕在前,一切工业符号都有了足够的理由出现,炮弹在号角声中飞驰,燃烧,坠落,流弹入海。

画面一转,我们看见两位少女正坐在海边的沙滩上。

她们没有色彩,没有动作,每一个姿势都伴随着微妙的吱呀声,让人联想到捷克的木偶传统。她们就麻木而天真地坐在那里。玛丽二号吹响了一声号角,说,ani na mi to jde(我才不在乎),玛丽一号接话,tak co nám jde(我们能做些什么),玛丽二号放下号角,nic nám nejde(我们什么也做不了)。

一闪而过的高楼崩塌,玛丽一号戴上花环,玛丽二号遗忘了号角。在彼此商量“要成为坏女人”之后,以玛丽二号给玛丽一号的一巴掌为转场,她们来到了有果子、有色彩的伊甸园,随之无姿态地如孩童一般起舞,玛丽二号咬了一口果子,第三个场景出现在她们的公寓里。

公寓

电影伊始再不能让人想得更多了。彼时世界被划分为两大阵营,冷战及不信任带来的军备竞赛,工业大社会生产之下异化的个人,斯大林主义背后操纵的集体思想。然而作者并未偏颇任何主义,而是站在人的境况当中谛观一切,且不予以意见。

置身在微尘与宏大的反复之间(具体表现为毫无预备的转场画面),纵然Věra Chytilová有意运用feminism的目光,但更多的依旧是普世情感。Věra本人也在采访中反复表示,她觉得自己不像女权主义者,在她的电影中寻找女权主义信息是最浅薄的解读方式。

回到最初,汲汲营营的涡轮像一盘吸尘机,毫不留情地抽离我们所谓的一切自我,使我们成为每一颗无足轻重的螺丝钉,甚至生活也要伴随着号角进行。可总有一天我们会想,如此这般的工作是为了什么呢?在高楼坠毁之前,我们显然不能够知道答案,因为一切对玛丽而言都是虚无的,直到大厦倾覆,危机才有迹可循。

终于,脱节的人变成了具体的人(要变得越来越坏),玛丽们忽然有了大胆放纵的力量(因欲念,从我们什么也做不了到偷吃果子觉得是再正常不过的事情),却更加自然快乐了,这时世界方有色彩,即便从伊甸园坠落到公寓(人间)。这是玛丽(女人们)欲念的具象化。不变的是依旧没有人理解她们,如同没有任何人能够理解彼此一样。

如此这般的工作是为了什么呢?

但是玛丽一号和玛丽二号不工作,所以她们想方设法获取食物。

玛丽二号频频和年长的男人约会,她戴着玛丽一号为她挑的丝巾,掩饰活泼的天性,装作恬静温柔的样子与男人谈话,而后玛丽一号现身,称她是玛丽二号的姐姐,肆无忌惮地点单,借此机会不顾形象地大吃大喝,而后再一齐送男人去火车站,扬长而去,进行下一个轮回。

她们服装一黑一白,长相成熟的玛丽一号戴着花环,一席白裙,长相幼态的玛丽二号环绕丝巾,一身黑裙,在此后的故事当中,她们频繁变换服饰,但只有花环和丝巾贯穿始终。就服装、长相而言,玛丽一号和玛丽二号显然是男人印象的一体两面,制作者将其进行了错位倒置,加剧了电影的荒诞感。

由于男女关系的故事浮现,人们往往倾向于联系父权社会下的女性处境,不过这似乎也是一种刻板印象,并恰恰也是Věra所嘲弄的符号标签,是她电影最表层的部分。她以此为武器,嘲弄了观看她电影并试图从刻板印象出发的所有解释。尽管暗示着女性的自主思想,电影提出女性应该离开家庭和社会角色的约制,寻找自身在父权社会被弱化的独立意志,但玛丽们作为想象中的女性角色,她们的伊甸园中并无亚当,因此不存在作为男人肋骨而被创建出来的前提,故而也不依附于任何一个男人。尽管用着男人的钱财贪飨不已,但这只是出于世俗的交易——男人欲念的具象化。比起划分阵营,Věra把男女双方的印象都极致标签化,那些故事是如此真实又是如此不真实,仿佛流动的话语和口号,她要针对的只有那个掌握话语权的人选。

玛丽一号也进行了约会。这次是在一个收集蝴蝶标本的男人公寓。他一再向她表白,她以蝴蝶标本为挟,反复脱离掌控,只问身边有没有食物。蝴蝶标本、报纸上漂亮女性的图片拼贴皆暗含男性对女性的情欲,女性应符合男性所渴望的模样,即纯洁的样貌、处女、服从男性、漂亮的身材等。嗓音高亢,举止幼稚,是男人们生活中“期待的”,因为他们没有意识到两个女人的故意行为。

而伊甸园的禁果、花等除了具象化为贪食之外,亦隐喻着女性对自我情欲的追求。同样的,玛丽二号在与老男人约会之时,老男人虽克制,但也在进食,男女的欲望本质上是一致的,饮食男女,贪食色相。玛丽一号用蝴蝶标本遮掩三点,男人低声求她取走,正暗合这一点。而这一幕的精彩之处则在于模糊结局的后续,玛丽一号与玛丽二号继续玩乐,听着打来电话男人所说的情话,把挂在墙上的纸带和香肠烧掉,一一剪掉烤好的香肠、鸡蛋(男人的情欲象征)——她们都对男人没有欲望。也许她们是爱着对方的。

一同泡澡

后来,玛丽一号和玛丽二号准备泡澡,“这就是我不明白的,为什么会有人说我爱你,你明白吗?”“为什么你会这么说而不是用鸡蛋来替代呢?”,她们将鸡蛋打碎,在浴缸里倒满牛奶,把报纸上剪下的男人纸像压入牛奶当中,玛丽一号看着沉下去的男人纸像,“就像是,有人不在了。”“你的意思是死了吗?”,她们一边泡澡一边进食,同时对生与死、存在与不存在进行哲学思考。“是的,拿你举例。”“我?他更喜欢你。”“现在我们坐在这里,想象一下,这不是我们。这太愚蠢了。”“谁告诉你这是我们?谁告诉你,你真的存在呢?”“你。”“是的,这是真的。”

再后来她们去了乡下,农民没有注意到玛丽一号和玛丽二号,一群骑自行车的工人从她们身边同样不在意地经过,玛丽一号和玛丽二号开始怀疑自己是否已经消失了。不过她们去偷玉米并且捣乱至一地鸡毛时,她们又确信了自己的存在。回到公寓,她们用被子卷起对方,用剪刀把彼此剪开,同时窃窃私语,“真高兴我们回家了。”“去死,去死,去死。”“你在燃烧,我在燃烧,我们在燃烧。”“你觉得过得如何?”“不要这样对待我,你知道我爱你。”“我们会发生什么事,我们会发生什么事,我们会发生什么事。”“我们缺乏任何证据。”“我们不要走更多的路了,好吗?”,从而成就电影的另一幕波普平面主义高潮。

似有若无的话语逻辑,分解的肢体与纸片,极具视觉与话语的冲击。作为讨论的命题,欲念和虚无都被明显地提了出来。“爱(欲)”与“鸡蛋”的价值观冲突,“存在”与“虚无”的证明方法,最后,用棉被包裹自己,用剪刀撕碎彼此。为什么要说我爱你而不是用鸡蛋来替代呢?他们只想消费她们罢了。

虚虚实实,真真假假,无一不愚嘲着表面之下虚伪,被滥用的自由话语,以及这个撒谎的世界。用天真的破坏欲来击穿现实的逻辑话语,她们此刻犹如化身战争,坦克碾碎引以为豪的人文主义,原子弹炸沉那些公共道德,不计其数的尸体走路,说话,只有玫瑰会唱歌,但艳丽的玫瑰本真也是刺。她们打碎鸡蛋进行沐浴,喝浴缸里的牛奶,超出美味享受的范围亦或者说是生理需求的界限(尤在下一幕体现最甚),食物成为堕落本源的象征,是七宗罪之一,是对权力与话语的渴望,是人心虚无的体现。

在世俗的伊甸园故事当中,禁果是情欲的体现,爱是存在的证明,她们就深情而严肃地说,“你知道我爱你”,与前文“谁告诉你这是我们?谁告诉你,你真的存在呢?”“你。”“是的,这是真的。”相印证,很难不去猜测,这是为了对抗虚无而说出的借口,因前方农民与工人的漠视,她们除了撒落一地玉米穗,用客观世界反证自身之外,只能与同一维度的玛丽相爱(没有人关心她们,爱她们,证明其存在),又或许这是一对不为世俗所容的同性恋,在父权异性恋的世界里挣扎,无论如何,“我们不要走更多的路了,好吗?”,已然预示了一个终点,随后她们把彼此剪碎,在存在与虚无中来回翻覆,Věra使用了大量彩色滤镜、波普手法、蒙太奇手段,不乏让吕克戈达尔的痕迹,但她在某种程度上的确在与她们共舞。被撕碎的不仅是自我,也是一切,国家,社会,被重新缝补的也是这些,极尽绚烂当中我们看见的却只有虚无,两个少女仿佛伊甸园之果喂养而出的恶之花,在思想和行动上,恶劣地破坏一切看得见的规则游戏,既包括她们自己和故事逻辑,也包括观影者的思维。

她们没有走更多的路了,玛丽一号和玛丽二号乘坐机器来到一个奢华的大厅,当中有一大桌丰盛的食物,或许是某场共产主义领导高层行将举行的聚会。她们用手尝着不同的食物,不停更换座位以便得到美食,贪食在这一部分当中得到淋漓尽致的体现,不仅如此,她们脱光衣服,无意识地肆意挥霍食物,用高跟鞋踩踏佳肴,踢飞盘子,将蛋糕当做雪球扔来扔去,镜面视觉效果一度呈现出万花筒的形态。

当她们爬上吊灯荡秋千之时,两人掉入河中,接着电影出现了恍如审判者的字幕:这是她们唯一的结束方式,有任何方式可以拯救这些恶毒的行为吗,玛丽们回答我们快淹死了,我们在呼救,因为我们完全堕落了,我们再也不想堕落了,于是审判者说,我们会给她们第二次机会,接下来会发生什么事情。

玛丽们穿着用废弃报纸做成的衣服将餐桌收拾干净。她们回到餐厅。把打破的碎片放在桌子上,把食物倒回盘子里,说着我们要善良,我们要勤奋,那么,一切都会干净而美丽。清理完成之后,她们躺在桌子中央,说着我们很高兴。玛丽二号让玛丽一号重复这句话,玛丽一号问我们是否在伪装。玛丽二号说我们不是,随即吊灯落在了她们身上,电影切换到战争镜头,上面出现电影声明:“献给那些精神生活一片混乱的人”。

这是无聊的、不被世界理解、和世界一起变坏的玛丽们所做的最后一件事情。她们果然没有克制自己的欲念,尽情享用着大厅里的一切,秉持着谁发现谁掌握谁进食的原则,与那些滥用霸权的人们不同的是,她们不加以遮掩,甚至破坏到底,娱乐到底。贪食症在现代社会被看作精神病征之一,在玛丽们疯狂不加节制进食的背后,反映的恰恰是精神世界的崩溃,她们的行径看似没有什么意义,甚至滑稽可笑,但各种过火行为映射出内心的虚无;面对现实世界的混沌,这些荒诞大概是她们消除不安的镇静剂。自电影起始,她们几次回归伊甸园,再下沉到人间,而在这一幕过后落进水里。

伊甸园和水域总是交叉出现,从Věra的天主教家庭背景出发,我们不妨把这几次伊甸园看作地狱抑或天堂的层级,把水域理解为灭世纪的洪水,经历一次次欲念“罪责”之后,被“上帝”问罪,因此玛丽们不断坠落,直至虚无主义的水域(内心的道德底层),她们才开始求饶和反思。这也暗合甚至反讽了捷克民族形象,“Pábitelé”式的言行举止,这种天真的、甚至是愚蠢的幻想似乎又是一种高超的生存技巧。正是这样一种生存姿态使得捷克民族得以在血雨腥风的历史变迁中生存下来。

因此,似乎很难去判定哪一种是好的,哪一种是坏的,没有永恒的真理,只有无所不在的悖论。

她们穿着废弃报纸拼接包裹的衣服回来打扫,正如玛丽们曾遇见的清洁工一样,与此前不同的是,如今她们沾满了标签,口号和他人的话语,不再是发誓所成为的自由的坏女人了,她们的愿望(欲念)只有好好工作,然后幸福。我们可以看到,大厅里狼藉的场景渐渐干净而整洁起来,但破碎的盘子仍然无法复原,掉在地上的食物再也没办法进食,脏污的窗帘依旧脏污,被战争破坏的家园亦复如是,Věra用物质构建的客观世界映射人们战后创伤的心灵还是那么空虚无措,像是用生命做出的一场达达主义实验,尽管玛丽们没有溺毙在道德的彼岸,吊灯还是击中了彼时凌驾于社会体制之上的她们,被世俗规范驯化的,最终也将为世俗规范所摧毁。玛丽们仅仅只代表女性吗?仅仅只代表个人吗?我看不尽然。

 2 ) Destruction and Reflection in Objectification: Feminist Destruction and Reflection in Objectification: Feminist Allegory in Daisies and The Girls 物化下的毁灭与反思:《雏菊》与《女伶们》中的女性主义寓言

作业英文写的,实在没时间翻译了,有关两个电影的比较就试着两边都发一遍。

Destruction and Reflection in Objectification: Feminist Allegory in Daisies/ Sedmirkrásky [1] and The Girls/ Flickorna [2]In the male-dominated film industry, it is rare to see films made from the perspective of women. Thornburg complains that traditionally most media have provided limited role models for women and that most films objectify women and define them in terms of their relationship to men.[3] With the onset of second-wave feminism in the early 1960s in the west, more women got involved in the film industry as filmmakers and more films were produced from a feminist point of view. Examples of such films include Daisies and The Girls, which are both directed by and use women as protagonists. These films successfully broke down stereotypical portrayals of women in film and have presented women’s reflection on their condition under patriarchal society. Daisies is directed by Věra Chytilová, a preeminent member of the Czech New Wave film movement. This film can be interpreted in a number of ways and can also be considered as a feminist allegory which reconstructs the doll metaphor as the celebration of the female recalcitrance rather than the apparent condemnation of its heroines.[4] The Girls, which is more recognisable of its director - Mai Zetterling’s political commitment, inserts an ancient Greek comedy - Lysistrata as a feminist allegory to reveal the heroines’ reflection on their own lives. Focusing on the central notion in feminism - objectification, this study will explore the feminist values presented to the viewer in Daisies and The Girls. This will be achieved by carefully comparing and analysing filmic elements and techniques used in both of these films. Before we begin to analyse their respective film works, it is valuable to look at these female filmmakers’ authorship approaches first. Although Chytilová and Zetterling are both from Europe, they came from opposing parts of Europe divided by the so called “Iron Curtain” for much of the 20th century, leading to distinct cultural differences in their work. As one of the most innovative filmmakers in 1960s, Chytilová’s work is characterised by surrealism, grotesque satire and absurdism. She is very creative in her methods through which she utilises avant-garde and experimental techniques to establish her own unique film style. For a brief period the work she produced was critical of communism, due to the de-Stalinization policy of the Czech government in the early 1960s, a short-lived period of artistic freedom in the country. Her early career as a fashion model may also have influenced Daisies. Zetterling is perhaps better known in the west for her acting than for her directing, yet she has created a new image of women in film which has embodied the potential of filmmaking by women[5]. Her filmmaking style is deeply influenced by the Swedish Ingmar Bergman, who has achieved worldwide notoriety as a director. He has directed several films and TV series that focus on women and marriage such as Persona[6] and Scenes from a Marriage/Scener ur ett äktenskap [7] which are in the same vein as The Girls. Some of the actors from The Girls also star in some Bergman’s other films. Therefore, it is necessary to consider the influence of Bergman when analysing The Girls by Zetterling.Differences in film elements and techniques set apart the contrasting styles of Daisies and The Girls. When analysing the respective films’ cinematography, it is apparent that the change of colour in Daisies and The Girls sets essential differences in their film’s tone. The differences are not just confined to the fact that Daisies is cine-colour and The Girls is in black and white. Daisies has manifest colour change from filters change and colour effect. The heavy use of colour effect in this film does not follow any specific rules, setting a tone that resembles a disordered game. Hames remarks that Daisies does not take itself seriously as most experimental films do.[8] This is contrast to The Girls, which follows a clear rule of the change of colour contrast. To some extent, The Girls is a combination of acting, reality, imagination and reminiscence. However, it is notable that only the reality and acting on the timeline are presented in a normal contrast, whereas imagination and flashback are both in high black and white contrast. This indicates a strong tendency of gender opposition. A clear and firm tone has been stated from the manifest colour change.

Fig. 1 The dynamic colour effect of rail in Daisies.

As evidenced by the soundtrack differences in Daisies and The Girls, the feminist allegory is told in a subtle way and a direct way respectively in each film. Much like its visual style, Daisies’ soundtrack is an experimental mixture of dialogue, sound effects and music. The soundtrack is more independent in Daisies, it includes pop music and mechanical sounds such as the tik tok of a clock and creaking sounds. The creative use of contrapuntal sound effectively defines the attributes of the two heroines from the opening scene of Daisies: the movement of the two Maries’ bodies makes a mechanical sound. From the beginning of the film Chytilová has made it clear that two heroines are puppet-like, as evidenced from their stiff and unnatural movements. In contrast, the sound source used in The Girls is diegetic for the most part. The movie uses dialogue directly copied from the play Lysistrata for dramatic effect. The memories and imagination aroused by the theatre that three heroines perform in are juxtaposed with lines from Lysistrata, to show their understanding of the drama and reflection of their real lives. The psychological description of an old couple who Liz has treated like friends is shown as monologues which reveal the status quo of women under the male gaze. Compared to Daisies, the dialogue in The Girls is more revealing in terms of its political overtones. This is in contrast to the dialogue of Daisies, which is far more banal and mundane, therefore its subtext as a feminist allegory is presented in a far more subtle way. Another element that differentiates the style of Daisies and The Girls is the performance style. The performance in Daisies is mostly acted out by the two women, and they are both amateur actors. Their performance style is unique and unnatural, and is in keeping with the style of the film. Their body language and speech are also stilted, and these traits combined with their negative and selfish behaviour are superficially attractive. [9] This performance style helps to establish the image of the girls as being doll like, Hames argues that they ‘act out a puppet-like spectacle.’[10] In The Girls, the acting performances are more natural and professional. The characters’ behaviour noticeably diverges under different conditions. In the real world and in memory sequences, the heroines are obedient and weak. However in the scenes from the theatre and from their imagination, they are radical and strong. These inconsistencies in their behaviour show their strong desire to have these traits in the real world. For instance, Liz gives three speeches which are after the show, in the real world in front of the journalists and in her imagination. Her confidence level varies in each of her speeches, at the start of her after-show speech she is reasonably self-assured, but in her real world speech she is irresolute, lastly in her imagination she is fearless and intrepid, reflecting her ‘desire for power’.[11]

Fig.2 Liz’s three speeches in The Girls: after the play, in front of the journalists and in her fantasy.

To some extent, Daisies is about the consequences of poor decision making whereas The Girls is a reflection on the feminist allegory. Daisies and The Girls both criticise consumerism with food but in differing ways. In The Girls, Gunila has an unpleasant flashback where she goes shopping and buys a cake. She is treated disrespectfully by a male clerk in shop and then children start to chase her, leaving her feeling helpless. She drops the cake she bought and runs away. Gunila does not push back against the clerk’s behaviour and fears the kids even as a mother of four children herself. In Daisies, the two girls eat, cut and spoil food, and burn things with joy. There behaviours show the girls’ liberation from consumerism using hyperbolic imagery. Lim describes them as being ‘awaken to revolt’[12]against the worn out cliche that women are powerless and flimsy.The relationship between the heroines and men in these two films are portrayed using different techniques. In Daisies, the two Maries belong to no-one, and they enjoy the game of manipulating men because of their inability to love. In other words, they also belong to everyone. They are portrayed as both consumers and destroyers of food, but in reality they represent the typical woman who has been objectified to the point where they are no different to a product that is consumed in the patriarchal society. Chytilová further highlights this from other details in the film such as when the two Maries soak themselves in the milk bath and when they get into the food elevator. In Daisies, the two Maries use destruction to justify their existence. Nobody cares them so they decide to destroy. The Girls is for the most part about the struggle of three heroines against the men in their lives. They are deeply bothered by the reality that people are indifferent towards them even though they are successful actresses. The girls in Daisies parallel the mistresses of Liz’s husband in her fantasy scene in The Girls. Liz’s husband takes his mistresses out from his case and undresses them on the bed as though they are dolls, whilst persuading Liz to sacrifice her career to support him. Thornburg points out that Liz’s husband wants to objectify Liz in the same manner as his mistresses: to achieve an ‘expansion of his own ego’.[13]Clouzot states that the dominant trait of Daisies is its objective vision[14], which explains why Chytilová and Zetterling present the two Maries and the mistresses of Liz’s husband in a similar manner.

Fig. 3 Analogous characters in The Girls and Daisies: The mistresses of Liz’s husband and the two Maries are all like dolls.

The difference can also be seen from different character settings. In The Girls, the heroines’ conflict with the men in their lives is partly due to their successful jobs. However, in Daisies, the two girls never work but exist under an ‘economical parasitism’ [15]. The three heroines in The Girls are middle-class white women who can be related to by the audience from their different conditions: Mariamne is a mistress, Liz has a cheating husband and Gunila is a mother who has a boring and irresponsible husband. In Daisies, the young and beautiful Maries are an extreme representation of every woman who has been objectified in their life. Daisies and The Girls both operate within a double world structure but it presented to the viewer in different ways. The two worlds in Daisies, which are the realistic orderly world and the world of the two Maries’ abnormal behaviours, exist independently. The majority of Daisies is dominated by the second world. There are several parts of the film in which the two Maries encounter the real world. For example, in the nightclub scene, a female dancer becomes frozen with surprise upon viewing the two Maries’ farcical behaviour. One can assume that her reaction shows how she has become enlightened by the two Maries’ defiance against docility. In the countryside scene, the two Maries are passed by a group of workers who totally ignore them, which sparks Maries’ self-criticism about their decision to engage in this behaviour. Moreover, the dual protagonists are symbolic of the double world. The repeated use of symmetrical composition from the beginning correlates with the concept of double world. Daisies starts with the dual protagonists sitting on the ground and ends with them lying on the table after their punishment. Their rebellion is destined to fail because they are still stuck in the cage of patriarchal society. At the end of the film, their behaviour reverts to that of the stereotypical female, happy to be subservient in society. Their destruction can be interpreted as Chytilová’s criticism on objectifying women.

Fig. 4 The double world in Daisies: the female dancer is closely awakened by the two Maries’ unruly behaviour which shows an intrusion of th

In The Girls, the double world becomes mixed up together as the three heroines’ theatre acting, real life and fantasy combine. The nightclub scene in The Girls is a fantasy in which Liz leads the women to use their initiative to put themselves under the male gaze by taking off their clothes in front of male onlookers. Only in the imaginary scenes do the women rebel bravely, which is similar to the behaviour of the girls in Daisies. Apart from this, the heroines are passive and oppressed in the real world. Their fantasies are more like daydreams, compared to the practical revolt that occurs in Daisies. The Girls ends in an ambiguous manner. Liz’s decision to get divorced is not shown explicitly but is replaced by the imagery of distorted figures dancing in the mirror, which may indicate an acknowledgement by Zitterling that the challenges faced by women in the real world are still difficult to conquer. As Zitterling admits that ‘a woman is emotionally formed by men and never quite breaks free from them, even if she would like to.’[16]

Fig. 5 The colour contrast change in the last scene of The Girls when Liz declares she is getting a divorce, which calls into question wheth

Thanks to the efforts of generations of feminists, women have made great progress in the pursuit of gender equality in the west. However, today’s world is still dominated by men, and women in developing countries are still facing similar problems to what were experienced by women in the developed world in the 1960s. Winkler describes the three main actresses in The Girls as having a real ‘sense of frustration with balancing or combining work and family’ in 1995[17]. Women in the movie industry are still facing these same problems today. Chytilová has become renowned for her talent, skills and unique style. However, Zetterling cannot avoid being overshadowed by the more acclaimed Bergman as a director. Therefore, films like Daisies and The Girls are still hugely relevant as feminist allegories, not only because they show how women have awakened to reflect on their condition, but also to act as a benchmark when it comes to the representation of women in film today. Daisies and The Girls both have distinctive styles in presenting colours, sound and performance on screen. Chytilová tells the story of how women can be destroyed by objectification through an experimental comedy. Zetterling contrasts the reality and the political appeal of women who have become inspired by the play Lysistrata. They both reflect on the manner in which women have become objectified and go on to explore the real world demands of women. Although the five heroines in two films all fail in practicing, the double world in Daisies already interacts with each other and the three actresses in The Girls are awaken on the ideological level. These proclaimed feminist films will always inspire people to reflect and behave just as the female filmmakers had wished. Winkler highlights that Liz’s speech after her performance likely serves as Zetterling’s own views in regard to her film[18]. These films shot from the woman’s perspective in 1960s deserve more notoriety as they are invaluable in showing the potential of women as independent human beings. As Winkler argues that ‘in spite of Bergman’s influence, The Girls is Zetterling’s own.’[19]

Filmography

Bergman, Ingmar, Persona, 1966. Film. Swe: AB Svensk Filmindustri

Bergman, Ingmar, Scene from a Marriage/ Scener ur ett äktenskap, 1973. TV series. Swe: Sveriges Radio

Chytilová, Věra, Daisies/Sedmirkrásky. 1966. Film.

Zetterling, Mai. The Girls/Flickorna. 1968. Film. Swe: Sandrew Film & Teater

Bibliography

Anděl, Jaroslav, Alexandr Hackenschmied (Prague: Torst, 2000)Clouzot, Claire, ‘Daisies by Věra Chytilová’ Film Quartly, Vol.21, No.3, 1968, pp. 35-37.

Hames, Peter, Czech and Slovak Cinema: Theme and Tradition (Traditions in World Cinema) (Edinburgh University Press, 2010)

Lim, Bliss Cua, ‘Dolls in Fragments: Daisies as Feminist Allegory’ Camera Obscura, Vol.16, No.2, 2001, pp. 1-77.

Sloan, Jane, ‘Making the Scene Together: Mai Zetterling’s Flikorna/The Girls(1968) and Aristophanes’s Lysistrata’, Quarterly Review of Film and Video, Vol.25, No.2, 2008, pp. 97-106

Thornburg, Linda, ‘Mai Zetterling: The Creation of a New Mythology’ Journal of the University Film Association, Vol. 26, No. 1/2, 1974, pp. 13-15.

Winkler, Martin M, Classical Literature on Screen: Affinities of Imagination (Cambridge Press, 2017)

[1] Chytilová, Věra, Daisies/Sedmirkrásky. 1966. Film. [2] Zetterling, Mai. The Girls/Flickorna. 1968. Film. Swe: Sandrew Film & Teater [3] Thornburg, Linda, ‘Mai Zetterling: The Creation of a New Mythology’ Journal of the University Film Association, Vol. 26, No. 1/2, 1974, p. 13. [4] Lim, Bliss Cua, ‘Dolls in Fragments: Daisies as Feminist Allegory’ Camera Obscura, Vol.16, No.2, 2001, p. 38. [5] Thornburg, ‘Mai Zetterling: The Creation of a New Mythology’, p. 13. [6] Bergman, Ingmar, Persona, 1966. Film. Swe: AB Svensk Filmindustri [7] Bergman, Ingmar, Scene from a Marriage/ Scener ur ett äktenskap, 1973. TV series. Swe: Sveriges Radio [8] Hames, Peter, Czech and Slovak Cinema: Theme and Tradition (Traditions in World Cinema) (Edinburgh University Press, 2010), p. 152. [9] Anděl, Jaroslav, Alexandr Hackenschmied (Prague: Torst, 2000), p. 8. [10] Hames, Czech and Slovak Cinema: Theme and Tradition (Traditions in World Cinema), p. 154. [11] Sloan, Jane, ‘Making the Scene Together: Mai Zetterling’s Flikorna/The Girls(1968) and Aristophanes’s Lysistrata’, Quarterly Review of Film and Video, 25:2, 2008, p. 102. [12] Lim, Bliss Cua, ‘Dolls in Fragments: Daisies as Feminist Allegory’, p. 60. [13] Thornburg, ‘Mai Zetterling: The Creation of a New Mythology’, p. 15. [14] Clouzot, Claire, ‘Daisies by Věra Chytilová’ Film Quartly, Vol.21, No.3, 1968, p. 35. [15] Lim, Bliss Cua, ‘Dolls in Fragments: Daisies as Feminist Allegory’, p. 57. [16] Thornburg, quoted in Rosen, Marjorie, ‘Women, Their films and Their Festival’ Saturday Review (ed) ‘Mai Zetterling: The Creation of a New Mythology’, p. 15. [17] Winkler, Martin M, Classical Literature on Screen:Affinities of Imagination ( Cambridge Press, 2017), p.149. [18] Ibid. p.144. [19] Ibid. p.148.

 3 ) 献给精神世界一片混乱的自己


豆瓣的第一次影评,献给《野雏菊》,因为 看到了自己。

也许,因为 孤独。常常觉得这个世上没有人能真正理解谁。从人群中回到孤独的一个人的世界,就像摘下了 冰冷的铁面具 换了张 温暖的人皮 。但逃避永远无法解决问题。时间久了,一个人的时候,孤独感袭来,觉得无论是谁都无法化解心中的孤独。是有三五好友可以倾诉,即使不见面隔着手机陪你聊天也能化解短暂的空虚;是有父母可以慰问,每日关心彼此的日常生活,让你觉得被爱。可又有谁能真正化解 孤独感与被理解 这个永恒的难题?

一个人的时候,孤独袭来,我也曾想过许多疯狂的,自己从未做过的举动。一个人抛弃现有的一切去自己想去的任何地方流浪,看看这世界究竟有没有别种生活方式;一个人去ktv去夜场狂欢,甚至约一次p,去酒吧宿醉跟完全陌生的人一夜情……怎么疯狂怎么来,怎么堕落怎么想。然而,冷静下来,终究是克制住自己,做一个一贯的爸妈的好孩子,社会的好青年。直到,今天我看到了这部电影:《雏菊》
两个玛丽,就像看到了另一面的,也许永不会跨出的我自己。 回到电影————

1、关于理解、存在与被感知








影片的一开始就抛出了“没有人真正理解我们”这个问题,在中后段,因为园丁,行人的忽视发出了“为什么没有人注意我们”的疑问,接着,在浴缸里泡牛奶浴时,又产生“你用什么来证明你的存在——什么也没有”的讨论。
两次将“象征圣女光环的花圈扔向水面”的细节,表达了:“没有人理解+没有人注意+没有什么可以证明自己的存在”&“世界在变的越来越糟”——“我们尽情堕落狂欢吧”!(片中的“堕落程度”也是递进的)
在很小的时候,我们每个人都以为自己就是世界的中心,即使是很小的孩子,也会因为怎样做别人会更加注意到我而改变自己的举动。长大后,我们认识到人与人之间的不同,知道了很多事情的另一面。是的,你一直以来都很优秀,你所拥有的成功吸引力一部分“别人”的注意,你有优异的成绩正当的职业、稳定的收入,一切看起来都很好。可是,有谁真正理解你,关心你真正的内心世界,即使父母?有什么可以真正证明你的存在,你的工作,你的家庭,你所拥有的一切,比如金钱、外表、魅力?都不能。世界不会因为任何一个人停止运转。你的工作不会,家人不会,朋友更不会。也许有悲伤,有短暂的暂停消沉,可别人过得,选择的,终究都是他自己的人生,实际上,一切都与你无关。你所有的,只有你,一个,你自己都无法真正理解的你。

2、关于所谓“爱情”
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你觉得什么是“爱情”?
单纯的、不是因为血缘关系的两个人之间的相互吸引,不论性别。
因为荷尔蒙,因为动情激素,因为基因,因为性,因为渴望被关注被理解被接纳。
其实这就回到了第一点。
我们为什么需要爱?在一开始,是激素,“性”的吸引,动物的天性。再后来,是作为一个人情感、内在的需求——因为我们在这世上一直寻求的,其实就是被关注、被理解、被感知。
但激素会随着时间消退。被另一个人真正理解根本无解。
有时候,一个人,跟自己相处多了的时候,我发现,连我自己对自己都不感兴趣了。所以也就理解了为什么激情会消散。自己陪自己久了都会累,又怎能怪另一个人,长期一起审美疲劳?
所谓陪伴到最后的,有爱,更是一种修炼吧。

3、你有感觉过,“你不是你”吗
你做过“坏事”吗?———我做过。不止一次。
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我记得张爱玲在一篇散文里写过“中国人是喜欢犯法的,妙在漫无目的的。指示牌上标明了正在施工,此路不通,也非得要撞到南墙才肯回头”。我喜欢“妙在漫无目的”六个字。
我就是这样一个中国人。
我做过大大小小很多错事,很多,最终被原谅。
我只记得,有一种感受:当案发时,你站在“审犯厅”里头,当一群人围着你的时候,会突然灵魂出窍,感觉消失,觉得一切就像是一场梦,而“你不是你自己”。
这也许是种有效的心理保护,没有研究过这方面心理学,但对我而言,偶尔做坏事的感觉就像是“我不是我,在体验另一个我”。这些坏事也许都是很小很小的事,小到有的不能被称作是坏事,然而,我在心里,却还始终保有着“做坏事”的激情。
就仿佛在利用另一个我,在体验不同的人生。

杨丽萍说,人有三种,生命的享受者,旁观者和体验者。她自己是旁观者,而我,应当属于体验者吧。总是渴望尝试不同的可能,了解不同的人生;好奇不同的国家,不同的职业,不同的人所拥有的生活状态,想知道怎样才是生活最好的选择。

内心感受大于一切。做过错事,犯过傻。想得到的太多,能拥有的太少。

看看这部电影,也许你会更加理解自己也原谅自己。



















 4 ) 在虚无中暴食

我猜每一个有暴食倾向的人看到此片都会打心底拍手称好,因为这两姐妹简直神复原了我们这些人的日常状态:疯狂贪婪食物,而后又在堕落后感到无限的懊悔和空虚,接着下定决心好好做人,勤奋工作,周而复始地在这个过程中一遍遍循环……

有暴食倾向,很大程度上来源于正常的心理需求未得到满足,而内心巨大空虚又需要填补,这时食物就成了填补者。正如影片中这两个混乱姐妹,她们不断询问自己是否存在,一切是否存在,当肯定世界已经走向堕落时,她们也选择以堕落回答堕落,她们戏弄男人们的感情,偷别人钱包,大毁宴席,在舞会上搞破坏,每一件事与每一件事之间你找不到任何逻辑和理性,而食物在这里,本质上已经超出生理需求或者美味享受的需求了,食物成为堕落本源的象征,是人内心虚无的体现。

同时,配合着导演的各种滤镜和蒙太奇、超现实镜头,更将这种混乱推到一种令人称叹的地步,我们跟着两姐妹一会儿在泳池,一会儿在卧室,一会儿在餐厅,一会儿在草地,一个多小时的片,完全不知道她们在干什么,只看到她们不停地吃,在吃的空隙间来几句摸不着头脑的对白。整部影片如同夜间做的梦,超现实的画面却实实在在表达了我们所处现实的空洞和荒谬,尽管此片是60年代的片字,但放在当下看依旧能引起共鸣,互联网让世界互联,却让个体和社会越来越原子化,价值观看似包容却实际越发单一,各种综艺网剧段子八卦持续轰炸我们的眼镜和耳朵。我们对信息暴食,对娱乐暴食,对资本暴食,但依旧无法解决自我的存在问题和虚无感受。

回到影片结尾,疯狂姐妹躺在收拾完残局的长桌上,一遍一遍地说着“我们很高兴”,似乎将一切打扫清理完毕后,明天就是新的开始,她们真的可以勤奋工作并感到快乐吗?真是这样吗?

 5 ) 现实与梦境

整个电影像一场梦。

叙事如梦一般,场景忽近忽出,没有明显逻辑,颜色时而黑白时而彩色。主人公完全是由直觉来引领行动,思考和逻辑是被直接跳过的。脑中涌出的想法会直接变成行动。

两个女主的行动像两个不愿被束缚,疯狂的两个意识,在物质世界的显化。也像是两个内心中小我的自娱自乐和讨论,想象和意识即现实。

梦,直觉和逻辑,一直是两个吸引我且让我好奇的的课题,人为什么推崇理智和逻辑?为什么要压抑感性呢?人为什么要符合条条框框的社会标准?在世界存在的意义是什么?我的行动会带来什么?看雏菊的时候好像又体会了做梦的感觉。

随意的一个想法,用直觉和第六感行动异常迷人。不得不说,我也很想靠直觉生活。以上原因让这部电影给我留下了深刻的印象,也让我更偏爱。

此电影已列入我的favorite,对我影响很大。见识到了电影还可以这么拍,艺术的表达形式多种多样。Vera Chytilova导演的名字很好的背下来了,实在很欣赏。

 6 ) 鬼马!

这个世界上的一切都堕落了

你说的一切是什么

就是一切

我们堕落了不是吗

而且我有工作,做个傻瓜哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

有五秒转的时光列车太酷炫太惊喜了!

鬼马的太有趣了(两个人一黑一白,一个墨绿一个薄荷绿,一个格纹一个波点,一个短发花环一个双马尾,一起烧房子,泡牛奶浴,在草地上打滚儿,剪衣服,互相丢蛋糕)把蝴蝶标本与女性身体的私密敏感部位相结合

你不属于这个世纪

我一定是爱上你了

 短评

玩得很过瘾,几乎不讲任何逻辑道理,布景滤镜艳丽色彩自由变换,让人目瞪口呆。人物不开口还算可爱,说话一秒智障。但是!这对姐妹不就是pop team epic吗!!!结尾扔蛋糕处还出现了名台词!!!

2分钟前
  • Lycidas
  • 还行

10/31/16课上重看,这也许是最好的新浪潮电影之一,由于多数桥段中的社会主义隐喻与讽刺都是显而易见的,因此其内容并非重点,重要的地方是它是对电影作为一种视觉媒介的检视,突破电影依赖于格式化戏剧故事的限制,通过主题上相关联的镜头语言与视觉元素来构建其属于自己的独特叙事。

6分钟前
  • JoshuaLi
  • 力荐

感觉先行,大道自解。逻辑、故事皆不重要,“好玩”才要紧。两个不良二逼欢脱少女,用极其轻浮且放浪的方式,破坏、摧毁、消解、挪揄社会的规制。什么理由?没有。说不出来。不要这么严肃。想起《局外人》,她们是捷克的「局外人」,用身体欢娱道德,以堕落寻求快感。女性主义和无政府主义的隐喻说有也行,却比较牵强附会。导演仅是想拍一群精神混乱的人,她们正好是女孩。虽然没有逻辑和故事可言,我还蛮喜欢的,可能我内里也有这种邪恶之花吧。

11分钟前
  • 常月琴(喜偷乐
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电影本体层面上的一种暴力美学和破坏欲,动作的韵律令人想到某种基顿式的机械感和卡通感,结尾甚至还耍起了特技,非常可爱;友邻说影响了里维特,确实哈,不过感觉里维特吸收了这片里的最精华最纯粹的地方,尤其体现在《席琳和朱莉出航记》中。

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  • TWY
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看的人头疼,前半个小时还能有耐心把牛逼的摄影截下来,到了后半个小时就真是...... 跟雏菊沾边的东西果然正常人不能理解,两个傻逼少女的声音快要穿破我的头颅了。看的时候不禁在想我那位黑白色盲的同学看这片会不会控制不住骂爹

21分钟前
  • 森暮
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9/10。神作!剪辑碉堡,画外音碉堡,仿默片云云,视觉系流光溢彩,趁着青春干尽各种疯狂事,表现无政府主义必死。心想导演绝对是个逗逼,片尾字幕打出来时笑得前仰后合了。。。大致看了下豆瓣短评后怒打五星!谁说电影一定需要故事的?人家形式主义者肆无忌惮玩地玩结构、直捧电影阐释理论照样牛!!!

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片尾说这部电影献给精神生活一团糟的人们,简直深得我心,五星力荐的神经病片

28分钟前
  • 女巫
  • 力荐

完全先锋派手法拍成的“剧情长片”,却难于纳入先锋派的谱系(这儿有个大弯子要绕哎),这片儿搁在60年简直潮爆了~

31分钟前
  • 胤祥
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看得我整个人都精神混乱了...呵呵...【联合国教科文组织】 捷克影史十五佳NO.13

36分钟前
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  • 很差

Collage.既然世界这么坏,我为什么不能坏。无论是浪费食物还是鄙视男性,恣意妄为的背后,不知是自由意志的骄傲,是掩饰不住的空虚,还是证实自己的存在,或就是精神混乱的展现。有几段还是颇为精彩的,两个女孩在餐厅和沙发上的对称/不对称构图,火车的超现实色彩,被剪刀解构的人,电梯小口中的窥伺,餐桌上的时装秀,破坏囤积的美食以及报纸裹身吊灯坠落的隐喻,还有奇特的音效。1960年代的东欧能有如此尺度,令人吃惊。

37分钟前
  • 叶洲
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捷克斯洛伐克,1966年两个17岁女孩肆意妄为践踏食物,勾引老男人,表达自私敏感女性的深层愿望,和与现实的矛盾,此表现为这个社会被异化的一切使得人类感到远离、恐慌跟空虚的,人制定的规则、道德、政治、工业革命带来的一切都是与人的本身相背离的事物,感谢邹一,D姐

39分钟前
  • 带头大叔
  • 很差

最喜欢的两个镜头是阉割的暗示和互相将对方剪成碎片,结尾她们俩在水中抱着柱子(阳具的隐喻)呼救徒劳地试图重新回归秩序,精神生活混乱的夜里看这片令人感觉悲哀。ps一种斯拉夫语言居然被讲得这么嗲(但是做作的天真和娇嗲也是挑衅姿态的一种)

43分钟前
  • 兔狲啊
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跟《水牛城》一样,这部也让我有疯狂截图的欲望,每一帧都想收藏。

48分钟前
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捷克新浪潮代表作,不羁而放纵,漫溢着毁灭、破坏、亵渎与解构之力。1.大量的碎片拼贴(不论是叙事形式还是内容元素,如室内墙上的拼贴画)和高速剪辑,不时插入的密集同主题照片快剪或单镜头内的照片堆叠。2.两种对传统电影空间的破坏游戏:匹配剪辑(动作或视线)时骤然变换空间,打破连贯性;同镜头或同空间内变换不同滤镜(同戈达尔)。3.炫彩特效镜头:飞驰火车后的铁轨。4.在两位堕落少女恶作剧或捣乱时搭配古典圣洁之乐,颠覆道德与宗教。5.首尾的战争(空袭、爆炸、核弹)镜头为全片定调和点题——集体性的、甚或全人类的恶与破坏欲。6.剪刀是重要意象,先是随意将香蕉、鸡蛋等事物剪成片,直至将双方身体剪碎-拼贴。7.高潮的宴会偷吃、脚踩及互扔食物场景易引起生理不适。8.点燃悬挂纸带,以蝴蝶标本遮体,捆绑报纸衣。(9.0/10)

51分钟前
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  • 力荐

瞪着眼睛很仔细地看完了,并没有get到笑点,但是因为姑娘可爱服装新潮,觉得还算悦目(虽然她俩真的糟蹋了很多食物)。大概长得好看的人连发神经都有特权吧。虽然电影看不明白,但是大宸短评好好笑😂 房间如此邋遢的情况下她俩的裙子没有褶,脸上粉很完整,假睫毛也形态完美… 学习了💅

53分钟前
  • 米粒
  • 还行

通过两个恶作剧少女的破坏行为来批判战争,高级的隐喻。许多电影是情节的有趣,但本作是作为电影这一艺术形式的有趣,拼贴式的剪辑,大胆的色彩,非常理的音效,充满律动的节奏。结局先以明快的氛围让观众共享破坏的快感,再以复原这一行为让我们痛感暴力的徒劳虚无与讽刺,脱离剧情、直接操纵情感。

58分钟前
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  • 力荐

超现实的杰作,各种实验手段,在角色上,俨然女版狂人比埃罗。印象中这片被审查机构加以罪名为浪费食物。

59分钟前
  • 桃桃林林
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导演显得太聪明,演员显得太蠢,会让电影蠢得或者聪明得使人难以忍受。这是各地所谓新浪潮最大的弊端——不够谦虚。

1小时前
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半夜很困的时候看的,本来以为肯定会看睡着,结果越看越清醒,真是很绚的片子。献给那些精神世界极度混乱的人,呵呵。就是那俩女的不停吃东西,半夜饿得我啊……

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8.6;贪新鲜有如娃娃爱天下/浪费他直到花花地球全摘下

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